TNA Bound For Glory Discussion: Sting v. Samoa Joe
Written by Lex on October 12th, 2008 in Live Discussion, PPV, TNA.
Three weeks ago, if you’d have asked me whether or not I was ordering Bound For Glory, I’d have a quick response for you: yes, I am–I dig the “Respect” storyline and Bound For Glory is always TNA’s best PPV of the year.
Unfortunately, the “respect” storyline has fallen a bit by the wayside, outside of the rushed AJ Styles/Booker T/Christian Cage build-up. What was a guaranteed order for me has become a “not likely.” I’m wondering if a lot of people out there feel the same way?
I’ve had some last-second thoughts about ordering, but I’m not sure I can justify spending $34.95 on this show. If TNA wants this to be the “biggest show of the year,” I think they need to do a lot more to build the entire card, not half-ass a bunch of matches on the episode before the show.
For example, I’ve been watching Impact! every week, but it’s hard for me to tell you who is in the “Steel Asylum” match or why they are even having it. Also, why is the X Division title build so last-minute? They didn’t even decide who would be challenging for it until Thursday’s Impact!, and because it was so late in the game, they HAD to go with the easy way out–a patriotic character challenging a Muslim.
I will say this–even if you’re in agreement with me that the build has been sub-par, the one thing you can count on with this show is the wrestlers working their asses off. That’s what keeps TNA going, because it’s definitely not the booking. If I do order this show, it’s because of the wrestlers like AJ, Joe, Kurt and the X-Division guys that work so hard.
Regardless, here’s tonight’s card, courtesy TNAWrestling.com:
TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Champion Samoa Joe vs. “The Icon” StingTNA GRUDGE MATCH
“King Of The Mountain” Jeff Jarrett vs. Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle
Special Enforcer: Mick FoleyTHREE WAY MATCH
Booker T (w/ Sharmell) vs. “The Instant Classic” Christian Cage vs. “The Phenomenal” AJ StylesMONSTER’S BALL WORLD TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH:
Champions Beer Money Inc. vs. Team 3D vs. The Latin American Xchange vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan
Special Referee: Steve “Mongo” McMichaelTNA X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Champion Sheik Abdul Bashir vs. Consequences CreedTNA KNOCKOUTS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Champion Taylor Wilde vs. Awesome Kong vs. RoxxiTHE RETURN OF THE STEEL ASYLUM MATCH
The X Division superstars battle inside the steel dome to try to escapeKNOCKOUTS BIMBO BRAWL
Rhino, ODB & Rhaka Khan vs. The Beautiful People & Cute Kip
Discuss TNA Bound For Glory here.
October 12th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
i agree i might order this soley on jarret vs angle and sting vs joe not cause of the angles but the matches
and the rest of the card i could give a 2 shits about
October 12th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
They wont be able to replicate 2006 Bound For Glory as the booking is poor but the plus side is that theres alot of great wrestlers on the card and on the night who knows what can happen.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Pole, you mean 2007 Bound for Glory, right?
Last year’s was PPV of the year
2006 was Sting vs Jarrett
October 12th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
excuse my English but WHY THE HELL does a match that HAS NO RULES and encourages anarchy need a special referee to RESTORE order?
October 12th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Jsnwwf,
2006 was also great all round, LAX v Daniels & AJ tag team match, X Division match Sabin/Senshi, Christian v Rhino, Monsters Ball with Jake Roberts as guest referee, Kurts Debut and altercation between Joe and Kurt. Sting v JJ was decent enough.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I’m ordering this solely for the Bimbo Brawl.
On that note, do they consider Rhino and Kip James Knockouts now?
October 12th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I got:
Kong
Joe, although Cage may interfere
Angle - CLEAN!
Booker T via Styles accidentally hitting Cage, even though its a triple threat
Machismo wins CLUSTERFUCK
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE wins
Beer Money retains - 3D PROMISED FIRE ON iMPACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bashir retains
ODB shouldnt have to be in the opening 3 person tag match, she should be in the Women’s title match for being the most ever impact woman on the show
October 12th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Is the original Nick, the actual original Nick? the one that was part of the first pwb era (2006) which consisted of Mollie D, Nick, SrColostimizer and Lex Luthor?
October 12th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
lol @ 3 main eventers getting a last second PPV matche
Christian, Booker, and AJ
October 12th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
PF,
I’ve loved every Bound For Glory before this. Last year’s wasn’t quite as good as 2006, but the main event between Sting and Angle was really awesome.
I look at this card, and I figure the main event and Jarrett v. Angle will be good. Monster’s Ball should be a fun hardcore match. I’d like to see Roxxi win the Knockouts Title, that would be cool. Outisde of that, I really don’t care.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
where can I find old PWB podcasts? I think I joined in episode 26
October 12th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Match of the Night: Monster’s Ball
Worst match: X division match
Bad booking: Main event I see it coming
October 12th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Samoa Joe has gained a lot of wait since 05, A LOT
October 12th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Wait, there’s a TNA PPV tonight? Lemme set my alarm for 7:45 Pacific so I can look for the results at said time. In all seriosuness though, I’m kind of curious to see this train wreck live, stream anyone? Does Justin.TV have a TNA stream?
Also, PF - Little trivia about my discovery of TNA: That Senshi v. Sabin X Div. BFG 06 match is what made me start to watch TNA full time.
As for the “WHOYAGOT!?” part of this post -
Joe goes over clean
Jarrett
Styles
LAX get the titles
Creed new champ
Wilde retains
Asylum: I donno. Petey Pump? WHO IS IN THE X DIVISION DAMMIT??!!?!
Angelina Love’s Breasts and Velvet Sky’s Buttcheeks featuring Kute Kip’s ambiguously gay character go over.
Also, how the fuck did Raka Kahn go to face? Anyone?
October 12th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
JSN,
They aren’t online anymore.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
OK, I’ve officially decided not to order this one. If it’s any good, I’ll check it out later.
I’ve got the next two days off work, so I figure I’ll order ROH’s last show on demand, anyway, and that’s a LOT cheaper.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
By the way, all, I need a new podcast poll, so feel free to suggest…
October 12th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Actually I got Curryman winning this
October 12th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Yea, lemme change my pic to CD too.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Lex,
Yeah this one doesnt have the matches to stand up to previous years. Monsters ball’s are always fun, in 2005 that Jeff Hardy bump and Sabu pulled out a few moves too.
TNA has really forgotten what made it different like the standout X Division, booking a few ex ecw wrestlers and having a standout Tag Team Division. Thats why there are 2-3 matches missing on this card.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
What was your favorite TNA Bound for Glory match?
October 12th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Asylum is up first, I guess the Union pulled the TNA workers to do it before teh show so it doesn’t interrupt the GREAT FLOW OF THIS PPV. Not.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Very good spotfest so far in this Asylum
October 12th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Running Canadian Destroyer to Shelley!
October 12th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Devine botches a move and almost kills Rave
October 12th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Damn, Lethal wins.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
They plug the live IMPACT on PPV, uhm WTF?
Foley is introduced, Beauties come in, and they only want the blue M&Ms. They throw the other colored M&M’s @ Mick, and he catches them in his mouth. I like it.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Just me watching this?
October 12th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I had a heart attaack when Velvet’s buttcheeks came out, uhm, Kute Kip did a stripper type of thing on the ropes _ HILARIOUS! THey introduced Raka from “the isle of Man” uhm what? and Rhino is as stale as ever.
Curtis Granderson (CF for the underachieveing DET Tigers) in attendance @ BFG 08
October 12th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Rhino was gonna gore Velvet’s buttcheeks. NO MYSOGYNY and Kip stops it. Kip and Raka try to chokeslam one another. Uhm, ok… Raka grabs Kip’s package, this is sad…Linda Miles 2.0 IMO…ODB is huge over in Chi town.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
lol no cub players in attendance lol i assume there still in mourning of there lost to Phillies which right now bott of the first 1 to 0 dodgers im still hoping for a dodger win here
October 12th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Jeez, a bunch of comedy and stalling, wrestling kind of picks up, Kip goes for FameAsser, Rhino gores him. 1, 2, 3.
Creed cuts a promo and I couldnt care less
October 12th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
JSN,
It’s too hard to say what my favorite BFG match is. I loved Christian v. Rhino and LAX v. AMW from the 2006 show. I also thought last year’s main event, Angle v. Sting, was suprisingly phenomenal. But I think I have to go back to AJ v. Chris Daniels at BFG 2005 in an ironman match…
October 12th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
jmart -
Fuck LAD. I’m a Giants fan.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
http://www.justin.tv/live_wweshow
IS STREAM
October 12th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Glad to see people finally discussing TNA for once…sometimes I wonder if anyone is actually watching Impact! live.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
jamie moyer sucks so im assuming the dodgers will take this one
October 12th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
X division match last year was my Match of the Year after Cena/HBK
I think LAX won that
October 12th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
They bring out this Sgt. a fmr. Iraq vet (an indy wrestler, I suppose) Sheik came out before him, and expect some sweet exploitation coming from TNA in 3, 2, 1
October 12th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
lol giants fan? there horrible i love baseball but i cant watch them play its like watching a bad minor league team play
October 12th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
lex i sometimes do but i love dvr so much haha i hate commercials
October 12th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Sheik yells shit @ the Sgt. and Creed attacks from behind to start he match. A huge plancha spot, and Creed hi 5’s DW/Tenay…this is so Russo’s wok….
October 12th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Iron Sheik helps Bashir! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
October 12th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
jmart -
it’s called rebuilding. You know NOTHING abhout baseball, sir. If you knew anything about them, you’d know they have grade B stock on all of their roster atm. It’s a young team, led by Lincecum, Bengie, Aaron Rowand, and Randy Winn.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
What do you guys think about Bashir/Davari as a wrestler? I enjoy his character development, but he’s never really stood out to me in the ring. In fact, I don’t think either of these guys are the right ones to have wrestling over the X Title.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
haha i actually know alot about baseball i just dont like the giannts they suck
October 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Bashir retains. Donno how. My stream stopped, meh, didnt really care though…
October 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Damn
I thought saying it would actually help make it come true
No Iron Sheik
anyway, Creed kicked out
so so match even though he wasnt suppose to
Bashir win, no sheik
October 12th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Shieed: Why are you Here
Foley: I am filling in for Cornette
Shieed: Silence! It doesnt matter why you are here
Foley: Hey, thats gimmick infringement, The Rock wont like that! I have him on speed dial
lol
October 12th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
http://www.justin.tv/live_wweshow
perfect quality no lag
October 12th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Seeing the KO title hype video makes me realize something
“I HATE HOW TNA HAS WOMEN BLADING”
That is all.
Jmart - back up your statemen, please.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
but i will say this scmike the giants has some of the fastest guys in baseball werent they 6th place for stolen bases in 2007
October 12th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Let’s go Roxxi…did you guys hear that Roxxi brings a hardcore aspect to the Knockout division? I hadn’t heard that before.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
did TNA think that the voodoo gimmick would get anyone over in this day in age?
October 12th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
JSN, it is a good stream, nice quality even full screen….
October 12th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
oh and i been watching baseball since i was about 10 and learned as much as i watched in ny when david cone pitched a perfect game i was in ny when sorino got his first ever base hit rbi and run to help the yanks clinch the division so yeah i know my baseball so theres my back up scmike
October 12th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
This KO match is pretty good
October 12th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Think about this. 1,861 viewers on that stream right now. Multiply that by 34.95…that’s like 65,000 dollars. LOL.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
lol and i wont be talking about baseball sorry im passionate in October
October 12th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
How does a kick to Kong’s butt break up a three count?
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
lol good observation has the ppv been good so far or is it not up to standards for bound for glory
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
That was abrupt
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Ugh, Taylor Wilde wins while Kong is out of the ring. LAME.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
maybe her ass is so big that when you kick it its earth shattering
October 12th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
boring ending to a good match
Why did Kong not win???????????????????
October 12th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
very very short
10 more minutes and it could have been match of the night
October 12th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Here’s where the show really starts
October 12th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
2,400 LOL
October 12th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I think im liking this whole “Mick Foley as GM” thing
Get Cornette out of there
Have Jarrett Fire him on iMPACT!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
This should be a war
October 12th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
match of the night = Monster’s Ball
here we go
October 12th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
No match of the night will be AJ/Booker/Cage
October 12th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
new link
http://www.justin.tv/obama_barack
October 12th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Feed is crapping out now…
October 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Mr Happy, that match will end with cage turning or some horrible booking
October 12th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
WTF WAS THAT?
WORST PIN COUNT EVER!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
abyss is ON FIRE!!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
The announcer sold the fire so badly
They basically are going on as if it didnt happen 10 seconds ago, WOW
We need new announcers badly, for real
October 12th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
horrifying 3 count
October 12th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Wow. Beer Money steals it. So far, this has been pretty lame in terms of people winning the matches…
October 12th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I wanted Beer money to win
October 12th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
AJ AJ AJ AJ AJ
Moonsault from the top rope to the outside!
October 12th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
OK, I’m done with this for the night. At this point, really glad I didn’t order, regardless of what happens in the last couple of matches. I think I’d rather watch True Blood/Entourage/Californication.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
booker wins clean
October 12th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
this PPV has sucked
October 12th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
wtf im so glad i didnt order this
October 12th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
True Blood was excellent tonight Lex.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Jarrett came back and lost to Robert Roode and they pretend that that never happened
He put Roode over during that Eric Young/Roode storyline but “he hasnt been in a wrestling ring in 2 years”
riiiiiight
bad PPV
October 12th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Champion Samoa Joe vs. “The Icon” Sting
TNA GRUDGE MATCH
“King Of The Mountain” Jeff Jarrett vs. Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle
Special Enforcer: Mick Foley
THREE WAY MATCH
Booker T (w/ Sharmell) vs. “The Instant Classic” Christian Cage vs. “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles
I think those three matches alone were worth the $35…
but what the heck?
why does TNA have such amazing main-eventers, but no-name midcarders? :\
October 12th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Don’t turn your bacc on the wolfpac
cuz you might go home in a bodybag
October 12th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Are you fucking kidding me TNA?
The last 5 PPVs have ended in a ref bump or interferrence
Christian, for my sake go back to WWE
You, Angle, Joe, AJ, and Curryman are the only reason I watch SPIKE TV!
I cant believe ther did that to end their BIGGEST PPV of the year, UGH
…………..and why wouldnt they?
October 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Someone please tell me why the hell they put the strap on Sting?
Someone please tell me, I don’t normally get pissed with bad TNA decisions like this, but this takes the frickin cake.
And Joe is out of the title picture until Sting drops the strap.
OH I AM PISSED RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I really liked the ending of the ppv.
Maybe that is just me
Rob Dib
http://www.prowrestling-gear.com
October 12th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
LMAO Sting is the champ LOL you suckers watched this while I saw “The Wrestler” almost the entire cast was there. I don’t know if this PPV was any good but staring at Marisa Tomei and Naomi Watts from 50 feet away was awesome.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
hmm. Sting or HHH. I’ll take Sting thanks. At least Sting will drop the belt when asked, probably at the next PPV.
Joe was stale with the strap anyway. Now AJ has a shot at it.
And Smart Wrestling Fan has really jumped the shark when it comes to TNA coverage. It wouldn’t matter now if Impact was the best wrestling show ever, because every thing TNA does they nitpick to death. And great idea to have 15 minutes of Japanese wrestling reports. Cue 99.9% of listeners turning off.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Pole Foam-
Yea this is Nick from the original pwb
October 12th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
DK,
I used to listen to that podcast, but it became very repetitive, so I quit. I can only listen to so much of recapping wrestling shows that I’ve already seen, especially when they start saying the same phrases and stuff over and over again.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
After reading the results on the rest of this show, it’s clear that it was the worst BFG ever.
But hey, maybe they can bring back the nWo wolfpac and call it something else…lol.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:20 am
I thought the Sting Joe match was awesome.I jumped out of my seat when joe dove off the balcony!
October 13th, 2008 at 4:06 am
best part of the PPV
October 13th, 2008 at 5:21 am
I am done with TNA. I was one of the only people here who watched it every week. Fuck TNA
October 13th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Abyss suffered burns on his arm because the people with the fire extinguisher didn’t fully extinguish him.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
SCMike yes that X division match in 2006 was amazing.
The Original Nick good to see you.
The ppv was very poor overall but Sting winning is not bad as he is a legend and he usually drops the belt in one ppv.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
I have no problem with Sting winning or with Nash’s interfering. It just sounds like to me the end was not scripted well. No way in hell Sting would win the belt w/o interference, so to further their “respect” storyline, I’m assuming they had to go that route.
And yeah, Nick, welcome back man!
October 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I don’t like the way they arranged the match outcomes.
After Bashir, Wilde, and Beer Money retained the titles, it was painfully obvious that Sting was going to walk out champion. I mean, they have to have a major title change at the biggest show of the year, right?
Also, I feel they really dropped the ball on having Bashir and Wilde retain. Creed and Roxxi winning would have been 2 feel “good moments”.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Sideshow,
Did you make a move on Marisa Tomei or Naomi Watts?
October 13th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I think they dropped the ball on the Jeff Jarrett outcome. He’s the big face, high-ethics guy, and yet he has to get outside interference and use a weapon to win? That makes no sense. A much better outcome would have been Foley swerving Jarrett and helping Angle. Now that would have been special.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Dont want to sound like a TNA apologist but, I think TNA realizes that Kurt Angle is the bigger star when next to JJ, no matter what. No fan in or out of kayfabe would buy a Jarret clean pin on Angle. I don’t think the decision is that bad, tbh.
And yes, Foley swerve would have been nice to see
October 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Yeah, I really thought Foley would turn on Jarrett and side with Angle. Maybe that’s why they didn’t do it…because it would have been a bit obvious.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I agree, I don’t think JJ should have gone over at all. Angle should have won clean or with Foley’s help. As it stands now it’s a real mess. I’m assuming Angle will attack Foley during his “retirement” speech next week starting an Angle/Foley feud.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
DK,
According to the net, that’s the plan…I don’t think Foley can wrestle at this stage, though. I just don’t get it. Hopefully he’s training.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Sideshow you lucky bastard. You got to stare at hot chicks 50ft away from you AND you got to see the Wrestler. Was the movie good at least?
****My Thoughts On the Show****
I gave up on that stream bc it kept re-buffering and the people in the chat were fucking ignorant. Never in my life would I imagine so many fucking morons blabbing about nothing in one place.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to book Mongo as special guest ref needs to be lynched and burned alive.
Sting being world champ is a very stupid move. Although I will admit Joe being champ was getting stale. The way I see it, it wasn’t his fault though. The way he was booked, the storylines the writers put him in…just wasn’t the same as him wearing the strap in ROH.
One good thing I can say is I really liked the design for the BFG Poster. Very reminiscent of The Untouchables.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Microgalleries/TNABFG2008/2008/10/13/match5_1.jpg
October 13th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
What was with Mongo’s haircut?
For me, the highlight of the show was watching them try to open the thumbtacks.
October 15th, 2008 at 1:42 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, I did call Sting winning live during the last PWBite Rant webcast. Am I a genious or what? No. It was quite obvious. I wish they didn’t do this, but you knew this was coming because Joe’s title run has been crappy, boring and such, so nothing good could come of this. I shouldn’t say that, this could be good, but Sting is crappy, well, at least has not been great.